(((KAYTEE))),
My parents were and are JWs, but I do feel that gut-wrenching guilt/sadness about the way I was with my grandparents.
They loved me and wanted to spend time with me, but I distanced myself because they were 'bad association'. I also felt I didn't want to get too close as they were doomed for destruction any day.
What a terrible religion!!
They'd understand, parents, grandparents who aren't JWs have UNCONDITIONAL LOVE for their kids.
We have to live with the hurt when they're gone.
Love and sympathies,
DNC XXX
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If we could turn the clock back
by KAYTEE inif you could rewind the clock, i became a witness when my mother and farther were still alive.. like many on this board while i was reasonably down to earth, looking back i was still overboard, this was because of the doctrine of the wts that i had accepted.. i look back with regret that perhaps i could have been a better son to my parents.. one instance when my farther was in hospital, the surgeon told my mother that dad had a growth on his heart.. my mother was extremely upset, not over just the news, but was worried stiff that if my farther asked me, my mum knew i would tell the truth.
(there are other ways of answering).
many will say get a life, and we should not reflect on what has gone on in the past.
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crazyblondeb......hey, she needs some encouragement
by purplesofa incrazy can't get online, and jwd is a real support system to her right now.. i talked with her a few minutes ago on the phone......... and she is going to call me tomorrow.. her mom is driving her nuts, she is ready to make a change in her life........and i am asking you to encourage her, as she is being very couragious right now.
i am proud of her.
she is going to call tomorrow and i would like to be able to read some wonderful things to her from her friends at jwd!!!!!.
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Hi there Crazyblondeb,
We're all here thinking of you and wishing you all the best.
Take care, sweetheart.
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Otherwise Engaged...
by LittleToe injust a little breaking news:.
after several years of a great friendship with diane (previously posted as xena) things have started to really come together recently and i've succumbed to making an honest woman of her (or at least as honest as it's possible to make her.
last night (xmas day) i popped the question and she agreed to marry me (i wonder if she knows what she's let herself in for!!!)..
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OOOH, I've only just found this thread.
How exciting!!
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH!
Can we all come to the wedding. Is this the first Apostamarriage?
Love DNC xxx
Some timely reminders:
Don't forget that toasting at the wedding is not allowed, for no particular reason, and neither is confetti.
You can't have too many guests and a bar is not a good idea. Only 'kingdom songs' to be played and no 'debasing' music or dancing at the reception. Some could be stumbled by a wedding veil and the rings are pagan and shouldn't really be used. If your dress is too pretty or you have too many bridesmaids and flowers you will be guilty of having a 'showy display'.
The reception should be over by 11.00pm because of the meeting the following morning. Some nosey elder will ask you before the big day if you've 'done anything unclean' and you'll have to answer honestly.
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My Wife Is Funny
by Undecided ini just went into the bedroom to change into my clothes and had just removed my pjs and was naked.
she opened the door about that time and remarked,"wow i just saw your golden globes.
" i couldn't stop laughing.
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Ha ha!
You should have had a role in the Austin Powers film 'Goldmember'
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Prison Bars around the Mind!
by Gill ini found the story of the abducted young boys very moving this weekend.
it must have been an absolute miracle for shawn hornbeck's parents to find him again.. i understand that young shawn had relative 'freedom' at times when his captor was at work.
i understand that many people will not understand why shawn did not run away at those times.
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It's very effective, Gill.
Whatever you think, plan or do as a JW, you're aware that Jehovah and zillions of spirit creatures, good and bad, can all see everything.
1984's Thought Police come to mind.
Or the Truman Show!
It's way more effective than people realise.
You can see my JW mum glaze over if you say anything negative about the Org. The bars come up and the padlock goes on. -
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Prison Bars around the Mind!
by Gill ini found the story of the abducted young boys very moving this weekend.
it must have been an absolute miracle for shawn hornbeck's parents to find him again.. i understand that young shawn had relative 'freedom' at times when his captor was at work.
i understand that many people will not understand why shawn did not run away at those times.
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Today is final court date.
by FreedomFrog ini wasn't sure if i wanted to post something about this on here or not but most of you already know about the problems from beginning and now to the final end of our ending marriage.
today in less than 4 hours it will be final.
on a positive note, dave and i seem to be better friends in the last few months (go figure that one out).
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All the best, FreedomFrog.
Hope everything works out well for you both.
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How did you accept counsel
by KAYTEE inwas it easy to accept council from elders, i found it extremely hard, the reason being it was always laced with stupidity.. just one of the many many times i had run ins with the elders.. when discussing an important issue that had come up (usually personally), the elder said to me "getting your little green book out again", a reference to my use of the wts code of conduct book (the organisation book) trying to counsel me on the use of wts material.
how can you start from common ground when you have foolish statements said like that from so called spiritual leaders .
my dear old mum, when bringing up 4 children after the war, gave us every week a dose of cod liver oil ,her reason was we needed it.. cod liver oil is like counsel.
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One elder counselled me after my other half stopped attending the meetings.
His pearl of wisdom was, "You can scripturally leave him now, you know, as he's a spiritual endangerment to you and the kids."
Imagine if I'd listened!!
We're so happy, in love and united in our beliefs. What a waste if I'd gone!!
DNC (who rejects the counsel of elders) xx
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Do You Get Any Pleasure Out of the Holidays Since Leaving the Watchtower?
by jayhawk1 inyesterday was my crappy birthday, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/20/127389/1.ashx and while the evening went along, i realized something.
i've been out of the watchtower for about 6 years now and i still don't enjoy the holidays or my birthday.
i can't recall one time saying to myself, "wow, that was so much fun.
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I found it a bit of an anti-climax.
After doing without celebrating b'days etc all my life, when I was finally able to, I remember thinking, "This is it??"
I enjoy my kids' enjoyment of celebrations like Xmas and b'days. Xmas for us is more of a winter pick-me-up, as we don't get snow, just darkness, rain and wind for months, a decorated tree and some yummy food cheers us up.
As we're struggling for cash (due to JW work constraints for many years), we don't splash out much on gifts,
we tend to focus on us as a family unit at Xmas because we came so close to losing each other when my hubby left the Org.
My advice is relax and enjoy friends and family that you have.
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Please say hello to my wife.
by nicolaou ini've been posting here for quite a long time, so long in fact that it just doesn't feel right that my wife isn't a part of it.
earlier today i created an account for her with the username heron, she'll know why.
i'm not sure if my wife will ever post here but i would feel much more comfortable knowing she is aware that i do.. this is the one post i am going to ask her to read.. so, i'd really appreciate it if you could say hello to my lovely wife.
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HELLO HERON!!!
Welcome to the forum, hope you can pop in and say HI now and then.
We're all here for each other and ready to listen.
Take care,
Love DNC XXXXX